May 13, 2022
Author and TV presenter Mark Olly joins us to talk about his recent study of crystal skulls and human heads. A fascinating discussion.
You can find his book on the subject at Amazon: Crystal Skulls & Human Heads
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Jim Harold 0:05
Where we came from, where we've been. They're eternal questions
that say a lot about where we're going as the human race. Welcome
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Welcome to Ancient Mysteries on the Air. I'm Jim Harold, and so glad to be with you once again. And we have a fascinating topic. And I'm sure a fascinating guest who we're going to be speaking to about that topic. Now, there's a recent book out it's called Crystal Skulls and Human Heads, and we're going to be interviewing and speaking with our guest, Mark Olly. Now, Mark has authored many books, he is highly creative, original, cutting edge, enthusiastic, passionate and very involved in all he does. He's a writer, artist, musician, director, TV presenter, archaeologist, and lecturer. And I'm guessing there's a few more we've missed there. He is indeed a renaissance man. He uses creative media of all types to tell stories from our past, present, and to look to the future. And he'd like to see a better world made by the creative and intelligent among us. Mark, welcome to the show today.
Mark Olly 1:11
Hi, nice to be aboard.
Jim Harold 1:13
So now this idea of human heads and crystal skulls. Now, sometimes
you see these two things looked at separately, you know, you'll see
books on just crystal skulls and mysterious crystal skulls that are
found and so forth. And then you'll see different ones. I don't
know if I've ever seen a book about specifically human heads, I'm
not an archaeologist, admittedly. Why did you decide to put these
two things together? What was the genesis?
Mark Olly 1:43
Okay. Obviously, we've been through a couple of years of lockdown,
pandemic, and what have you. And what I was thinking during that
period was what actually ties all of the human races that have ever
been together. And the thing--the one thing that every human race
has got in common is the skull, the face, you know, the head. That
defines us really, as a race, it's something that everybody's got.
Doesn't matter what size or shape your head is, or where you're
from. As a rule, you need a head to function. So I thought, okay,
that's something I can, metaphorically speaking, hang my hat on.
And I can go with that. So I made the human skull, essentially, the
pictures of the human head, the central thread for the topics that
I deal with inside the book. Obviously, as an archaeologist, the
link for me was fairly obvious between ancient fossilized stone and
organic heads, and the fact that then people have chosen to carve
them in stone, and the choices of stone are actually quite
significant. So that's really how it came about. It was just
linking a whole lot of what as you say, appeared to be disparate
elements together, under the banner of the human head, the human
skull.
Jim Harold 2:58
It would seem to me the human head, it's very mystical in many
ways. I mean, there's a lot of mystery around it. But you know,
what is the brain? Is it all encompassing? Or does it tap into a
universal consciousness? It seems like if you think of a heart, and
you think of the head, as kind of maybe two mystical centers, did
you find that to be the case?
Mark Olly 3:21
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Without a doubt. What I do is in the
book, I go through each stage, if you like, of what the human head
is, what it's representing, how it functions, the biology,
obviously, within that, the brain is a huge part of that. So to
give people some understanding of sort of how our heads function, I
actually do devote a chapter to the workings of the brain. And
essentially, through history, they've always had a very kind of,
you know, if it quacks like a duck, and it looks like a duck, it's
a duck kind of attitude to things. I think in the past, you know,
we've got eyes that see, noses that smell, you know, mouths that
vocalize, taste, hearing, thought. So I think in the past, it very
much thought that--that sort of driving force, if you like, the
soul, the thing that keeps the body going, resides principally in
the head. Once you realize that the rest kind of falls into place,
you know, it's the primary driving force behind us as humans, and
it defines us, very much defines us. So the spiritual side of that
as well. I think that's--that feeds into the crystal skulls, and
the representations of human heads and attitudes towards heads.
Very much as we come into the world, you know, we're born, and if
we come out the right way, we come head first. So that's like our
entry, if you like, from the spirit realms, and then we live here.
And then our departure is when the lights go out, if you like, and
when we no longer function, and the eyes you know, we'll close the
eyelids and that's like the end of the--curtains coming down. So
skulls kind of, then, became a representation of that passage out
of this life. So the head's the first thing in at one end and
effectively the closing of the eyes and those empty eye sockets,
that's the exit at the other end. So it's inevitable. I think, the
way the pattern of nature is designed that that's how people have
seen that in the past.
Jim Harold 5:12
It reminds me of Marie Antoinette, and if I remember my history
correctly, and I may not, but when she was given the guillotine, I
think there was folklore, and I don't know if it's true or not,
that she kind of blinked and looked around her--her disembodied
head, after it had been cut off, like it was conscious and was
aware.
Mark Olly 5:33
Yeah, that's--that's not folklore. That's--it was in history, what
they used to do, when--when they guillotined heads or they sword
cut heads, they'd actually leave them in a room for three days
until the eyes stopped following movement, which is--which is
really creepy. So it does make you wonder what's going on in
there.
Jim Harold 5:50
Exactly. And very creepy. Indeed. Now, you looked at things like
ancient heads, Celtic heads, stretched heads, inside heads, which
I'll be interested--I guess that means the workings of inside the
heads. But--but take us through a little bit of the evolution of
the human head, if you would.
Mark Olly 6:08
Okay. Well, I suppose the place to start is with the oldest ones.
The oldest heads, we've got are fossils. But because they've been
turned to stone, we don't get as much data out of them as we would
like. There's no DNA in there or anything like that. All you could
do really with a stone head or fossilized head is measure it, and
perhaps facially reconstruct it. So you got some idea of, you know,
what sort of people you're dealing with. These are hundreds of
thousands of years old, those kinds of fossils. If you want to come
slightly closer to our time, the oldest recognizable modern Homo
sapiens--sapiens head is probably around about 42, 43,000 BC, and
they're coming out of a dig at Dolni Vestonice--dolni--I think
that's correct. In the Czech Republic, they've--they've got an
excavation going there. And they're bringing out these heads, I
think they started off with them around 23, 24,000. And they just
keep getting older, but if that person was reconstructed, they
would essentially look like us. As time then goes on the gods, if
you like, tends to focus very much on us as a species. And a lot of
the other species of humans, which had been discovered, people like
the Neanderthals, Denisovans, and a couple of other mystery race,
they all--they've all effectively gone extinct. And the last ones
to do that, we think we're possibly the Paracas, in South America,
they were the last distinctly genetically different race to go out
of circulation, then essentially, you're left with us. And then
you've got the development of beliefs that our particular species
have then attached to heads. And that sort of brings us forward, if
you like, that progresses us. I mentioned, the Paracas because
those are the guys with these enormous elongated skulls,
these--these things that are sort of three times the capacity of
the modern day skull. And I really go into that, that again, you
mentioned inside heads that I had to look at exactly what effect
that enlargement would have on the enlargement of the brain. And
that gets really fascinating, you know, that answers a lot of
archeological questions about ancient technology and how we've been
in the past. Because these guys, you know, if you've got like the
equivalent to three Einsteins stacked one on top of the other, you
know, in the same head, you've got this enormous biological
supercomputer, get 10 of those guys in a room, and they'll tell you
how to build a pyramid in two minutes flat, you know, because they
really are spot on. And there were literally races of these
elongated head people all over planet Earth. So they will have fed
into this--into this belief system, hence, you get the biologically
bigger heads. But you also get us as a species trying to stretch
heads. And to copy these guys with the bigger capacity. That's
almost like a couple of 1000 year old experiments in can we be
better? Can we enlarge our craniums and get more intelligence that
way? Well the books seem to indicate we probably could, although
we'd look a bit strange (laughs).
Jim Harold 8:59
(Laughs)
Mark Olly 8:59
That would go down as a fashion statement. I think that would be a
bit of a failure. But then it--yeah, in the past, like I say, you
know, you've got the head is like the the driver, if you imagine
that's the driver and the rest of the body is the car. And that
seems to be how they've, how they proceeded. Obviously now we know
the heart also is like a second brain, it feeds things back up to
the brain in the skull. But they probably weren't aware of that,
you know, 1000s of years ago, they just focus on what they could
easily identify as being the functioning particles. And that seems
to be how the ancients viewed that and how that moved forward. But
I can say with a different species and the different sizes of heads
and what have you, it does make you wonder, it does actually make
you wonder sort of how they viewed that and what difference that
made to them socially, you know, all the advanced races in the past
and all the amazing things they did in the buildings they made and
all that sort of thing that's all over the planet, that possibly
went back to them rather than to us. So like I say, it kind of
answers some of those questions.
Jim Harold 10:00
Now, I want to get your opinion on this and see what you--what you
think and which way you lean. I'm guessing I know, but I'm not 100%
that I know. So better that I ask you than just guess. Some people
think--I remember when I first got my first PC back in 1990, I
think it was. And at that time, it was pretty much a standalone
unit, you got some discs that you put in for some software, I had
one of those trials to one of the very early kind of precursors to
the internet, it was called Prodigy here in the States, there was
also CompuServe at that time. But--but I didn't do that because I
was poor, and I didn't have any money. And it was very expensive at
the time. So basically, that was a standalone unit. There was some
software you loaded on it, but it was there. And it had a lot of
capability for the time. But it was just there, it was self
contained. And now you have my computer now that has its self
contained abilities. But it also has its networked abilities. And
you tie into the internet. And we can do things like talk to
someone like yourself in the UK while I'm here in the American
Midwest, and all these great things. To me, it seems like a lot of
people look at the brain as the 1990 version of my computer that's
unplugged from the network. That the software, the stuff you'll
learn, you put in it, and it's self contained, and that's it. Where
I think many of us think of it as both self contained abilities,
but also it's connecting to this broader network. And then I guess
there are other people who maybe think that it just connects to
the--the network, where do you fall on that continuum?
Mark Olly 11:43
Wow.
Jim Harold 11:44
Small question.
Mark Olly 11:45
Well, I was gonna say if I stick fairly strictly to the contents of
the book, what you've done is you've moved nicely into the crystal
skulls part of it, because I wanted to know why they chose quartz
crystal for a skull. And if they did choose that for a skull, what
connection were they aiming at, what was the connection between the
skull and the bigger picture? And the more I got into that, the
more I fell into this vast area of connectivity that I just did not
expect to find. Basically quartz silica is sand. It's glass. So
what you just described as a computer, which essentially is a
silicon chip. So it's you know, it's--it's quartz crystals grown in
a lab. And all the all the glassware and everything else that goes
with it, the glass in the windows, you know, the quartz stones,
quartz crystals, there's quartz in your buildings, there's even
quartz silica in the sealant you put round baths and all this is
quartz absolutely everywhere. So I wanted to know is how does that
affect us? If you have a deficiency of quartz silica, when you're
developing in the womb, it affects your head, and it affects brain
development. So if you don't have it, you're not as good as you
should be. So that was a pointer. I thought, well, okay, well, of
all the things to pick to make in crystal, the head was probably
the perfect thing to do that with. And then also quartz, with it
being everywhere, I stumbled across a report, I think it was in
Nature magazine, where they were looking at quartz on planet Earth,
to see where the quartz was. And eventually they got into this idea
of trying to see if they could swap out the magnetic iron core of
the earth and put in a quartz one instead to see what would happen.
Excuse me, as soon as they did that, it solved a thing called
Olson's paradox. Now Olson's paradox is if you get it wrong, in a
simulation, the planet doesn't work, you don't have the
electricity, you don't have the gravity, you don't have what you
need for the planet to function and work in space the way it does.
But when you swapped it out for quartz, more specifically, quartz
amethyst, it actually solved all of those problems, just in one go.
So that also means that the center of the planet, the core of the
planet, itself, is quartz. So it's like we're quartz, the head's
quartz, the planet's quartz, there's quartz all around us. We're
basically a carbon based life form living in a silicon based world.
We're a giant quartz crystal flying through space. Now, that's a
huge number of dots I've connected there in a very short period of
time. Well, that then again, does bring those back, it does center
us again back on to ourselves as the human race, because it's
macrocosm microcosm, you know, as above so below. We are quite
literally physical walking representations of planet Earth. And of
quartz silica. We've got magnetism, we've got electricity, we've
got all the elements in us that you find in planet earth, fire,
water, earth, air, spirit, it's all in us. It's also in the planet.
You know, maybe the ancients knew that and appreciated that. And
that's, I mean, it's in another book I've written about the Green
Man, and it looks at Planet Earth, actually as a head, you know, as
a living entity as the Green Planet but a version of us because
they viewed that as a head as well. And when you start to think
about that, you think, Wow, that is just unbelievable, the
connections there--there's going to be people out there now going,
Oh, that means this, that means that, that means, you know, the
connections are just many and various. Then you also got this thing
where they've just developed a message using a laser, of writing
data into glass disks. Now the glass disks are quartz silica, I
think they did it over here in one of the universities, and they
can write into the disk in 5D. So it's got an absolutely insane
amount of data that you can store in one of these disks. But
they're saying the same things, or they were saying the same things
in the 1970s, 80s, 90s, etc., about the crystal skulls. Maybe
somewhere in these crystal skulls, they always used to say, in a
legendary sense, that if you got enough of these things together,
they would release data, something would happen, which until these
guys, only very recently, I think, was 2013, developed this system
of writing into glass, it wasn't possible, it was impossible. Now
it is possible. So it's like, you know, spiritual fantasy fiction
has actually become scientific, actual fact, which is an enormous
leap. But it goes back to quartz silica again. And if all that data
can be contained in quartz, you know, we just don't know how to
read it yet. We don't know how to read quartz crystals. We don't
know how to read quartz in our environment, or read it inside, you
know, one of these crystal skulls, but it's possible, because of
our connectedness to our environment. Things like ghosts, you know,
maybe, then maybe possibly they're nature's holograms. Maybe our
brain, our senses, what we are, who we are, is a reaching out to
the environment and pulling in data from the quartz in the
environment. You know, why not? It's a perfectly rational
explanation. We just can't prove it yet. You know, so? Yeah, I know
it was a tremendously long answer to that question. But it was
quite a deep question.
And I appreciate it and I'm fascinated about it. I think there's this thinking amongst people that crystal skulls, for the most part, I mean, I'm talking about people who don't study this, and so forth. They think they're fakes. And maybe some are certainly fakes, have been found to be fakes. But I mean, what would you have to say about the authenticity of crystal skulls that have been found?
Right, that's always been a tough one. And it's getting tougher. Actually, broadly speaking, you're probably more correct to say there are fakes, lots of them. We're now at the stage where there's probably tens of thousands of these things out there. Certainly since the 90s--90s, 2000s, or onwards, they've been churning these things out by the thousands. And so what I tried to do in the book is I tried to come up with a definition of something that you might, at least vaguely, think is genuine. So if it comes from South America, or it's found in a context, a secure context, and obviously, archaeologically, it's genuine. If it's handmade, rather than machine made, chances are, it's genuine, because nobody bothered to do that, nowadays, as a rule. If it doesn't really have any machine marks on it, or it has signs of being made by humans. Again, that's a pointer there, it might be a real one. And again, stylistically, it's, you know, it resembles Aztec or Mayan or Olmec, or whatever the art form is, if it's got a style to it, that's distinctive. Again, that's another indication that it might be real. But when you start looking at the famous ones, the only one really that stacks up as being 100 percent is the Mitchell-Hedges skull, or the skull of doom, as it's known. That was examined using an electron microscope, and they could not find any tool marks on it. There's no way of dating stone, not properly unless you look at the water content, how fast it's lost its water content, that gives you an approximate idea. But that's not been done on the Mitchell-Hedges. But the Mitchell-Hedges one took so long to make and so much crystal to produce it. And it's anatomically perfect. Nobody would do that now. It's just amazing. So I actually think that one's more than likely real, I can't prove it. But I think that one is, you know, the most likely of all the famous ones. A lot of the others are Victorian or early 20th century, you can, you know, they all--most of them trace back to a shop in Paris, owned by an antiquarian called Beauxbon. And he sold a lot of them on to museums, but he certainly didn't sell fakes. He only sold genuine South American artifacts. And when he sold them, I think he sold them as real, otherwise, museums wouldn't have bought them. So there is a possibility there was an industry manufacturing these skulls as from South America. Archaeologically, there's only two that's been found. There's one in the ballpark at Koba, where they played the asset ball game and it's set in the floor, and it's milky white quartz, so that's always been there. So that's a genuine one. And another one, which was hand sized, a fairly small one, ended up in an archeological report that was released in Mexico City. It was found in a village, not far from Mexico City, but they won't tell you any details. They certainly won't tell you where it was found. Because they're afraid of these things getting pinched. You know, they are national treasures, so I understand them being protective of them. So I suppose if you include the Mitchell-Hedges, that's three. So I thought all the skulls, you know, that have appeared in all these books all over the world, there's only really three of them that you can say, Yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure, you know, sure secure in the fact that those are old and they're Aztec and they're genuine. I actually own one that came from South America, it's two owners away from the person who got it.
Jim Harold 20:27
Wow.
Mark Olly 20:28
It's a fantastic little skull, it appears in the book. It's just a
bit smaller than life size, I must say as well, it's best if these
skulls are life size, if you think they're real. If they're too
small, then you know, chances are they're not. But the one I've
got, it looks to be pre--pre-Columbian, perhaps at a push, but it's
probably around the time Cortes and the Spanish arrived in South
America. So it's probably somewhere in the 14 or 1500s, the one
I've got, and that would--that came from a source that I personally
know. But there's loads of people out there wouldn't accept that.
But yeah, so maybe that's another real one. But I just wish that I
do actually met the guy who it was given to originally. I mean,
it's long passed away. Now, I can say it's a couple of owners down
the line. But there aren't that many of them. Yeah, there aren't
that many of them. So really, really to be real, they've got to be
life sized, handmade, made of quartz or something very similar. No
machine marks on them. You know, and they've got to look the part
really. If they tick all those boxes then you're probably on safe
ground.
Jim Harold 21:31
In the book, you also talk about extraordinary heads for the--for
the purposes of this book, how did you define extraordinary
heads?
Mark Olly 21:42
I actually kind of worked backwards on that one. I think what I had
in mind when I was doing that was the idea that if you're
different, and you don't fit in, the majority of human beings as a
species, just don't tend to accept you, because you just don't fit
in. But that's actually wrong, that everything about that is wrong.
Because at the end of the day, it's the exceptional, and it's the
different and it's people you know, with these enormous stretched
heads with different capabilities, it's other species that are on
planet earth that probably offer the most, you know, they have the
most differences and gifts and talents that could move us forward.
Also, you got to bear in mind that as an archaeologist, I know that
whenever Homo sapiens, sapiens moves into an area, so you know,
maybe Central Europe, you know, there's a couple of Neanderthal
tribes around whatever, we move into that area, the Neanderthals
tend to disappear, they either get wiped out by war, or by
interbreeding or whatever. And generally the population of flora
and fauna tends to decrease as well. So we are incredibly
disruptive wherever we go, you know, it's just something that we've
always been and will, you know, presumably, will continue to be
like that. But we need to start to appreciate the extraordinary, we
need to appreciate things that are different, you know, people that
don't look the same, they don't act the same, they don't speak the
same, you know, whatever that difference is, you know, if the
Neanderthals were still alive today, they, to us, they would look
probably more shocking than the Aboriginal communities, because
they're to our way of thinking, Western way of thinking they look
quite extreme. But a lot of the other human species in the past
were equally as extreme. And we do not seem to have been as
tolerant of them, as they were probably tolerant of us, which is a
real shame, because the biodiversity that we've lost, you know,
some of those species would undoubtedly have held the secret to our
survival. I have no doubt about that. So although it doesn't look
much of a Chapter, you know, the definition of extraordinary is
just that. Something that is very, very different from us. And it's
quite an important chapter. It's, you know, an important part of
the book. I used to say it's a tiny book with an enormous story to
tell. But that really sums it up. I think people need to grab it,
read it, only takes a couple of hours to get through if you focus
yourself, but honestly the the information in there is literally
mind blowing.
Jim Harold 24:12
Now, you close out the book on the topic of alien heads, very
controversial. What are your thoughts on alien heads and what did
you discover and what--a little bit of what you had to share?
Mark Olly 24:27
As a life journey, my existence here on planet Earth, I have seen a
couple of unidentified flying objects. I saw a couple in the 70s.
I've had contact with a few in the 80s. I did a TV documentary
called Europe's Roswell on a crash that happened in Aberystwyth in
North Wales, which is over here, that's out there on general
release. So I've always had a connection to these strange graphs.
And when I was producing the book, it struck me that if these guys
with the enormous heads, if these supercomputer guys, if it was
lots and lots of them, and they used to live in the past, and they
were absolutely amazing. What exactly were they capable of? Did
they solve problems, problems of time and space, and other issues
that we are unable to solve? And then it also struck me that a lot
of people have had encounters, and describe these beings as having
unusual shaped or large heads. So okay, this is going with the
theme, you know, I'm looking at heads as a central theme here. And
the theme runs all the way into these encounters that people are
having and what they're seeing. So I really, I thought long and
hard about this, it was a bit of a struggle to come up with a
concluding chapter for it, I thought, Well, what I need to do is
push the book into the future. And then it struck me, future,
people haven't really looked at the idea that these things might be
time travelers. They might have cracked this problem with time and
space. Or they may actually be able to move through time and space,
without necessarily coming from another planet. Consequently, they
could be us from another time period. And again, I spent a lot of
time thinking about that. And I thought, well, you know, would I,
why would I come back or forward? Or how would I do this. And I
thought, Well, okay, if we're at the stage where something critical
is going on, you can't interfere with the timeline, you can't mess
with time space, if you're dealing with the past, because it has a
knock on effect, we know, it just ruins everything from that point
forward, what you could do is you could do that the other way
round, you could suddenly realize that this planet was not ending,
it was not concluding the way it was supposed to. In which case you
could drop in at the end, and you could sort of edge it, if you
like, nudge it and interfere with it at that point, because there
wasn't going to be an enormous, great big future for you to ruin,
you know, it just wasn't gonna happen.
Jim Harold 26:50
Right.
Mark Olly 26:50
Now, obviously, their time periods are going to be much bigger than
ours, or non existent. Not at all, they don't care, they can go
wherever they want to go. And my way of looking at it was, maybe
what these guys are doing is they're arriving here, and they're
saying to us, you really need to get your act together, or you're
going to lose this one, you're going to drop the ball, you know. So
that's really where that--where that chapter is coming from, or
where that wraps up. Because I don't think we can get off planet
Earth. You know, I'm quite a firm believer that there are lots of
good scientific reasons why we're stuck here. And no matter how
much money we throw at it, we need to be solving what's going on
down here. Not trying to throw things, you know, off the planet and
out into space. That is not helpful to the majority of people who
are here on planet Earth. And I think these guys in these machines,
these flying saucers, UFOs, whatever, I think they're fully aware
of that. Really, the end of the book just says, you know, watch
out, don't blow it, guys. That's, I think that's the message that's
coming through from, you know, the sort of spate of UFOs and things
that we're having at the moment.
Jim Harold 27:53
Well, it's interesting, because if you, let's take all other things
off the table, just the nuclear question alone, the potential use
of nuclear weapons. I mean, I grew up during the Cold War. I was
very young, but--but I remember and then the Berlin Wall came down,
and everybody said, Oh, we don't have to worry about this anymore.
Well, guess what? Yes, there were reductions. But those nuclear
weapons did not go away. There's proliferation. And I would say,
you know, having--having had it around since 1945, it's a miracle
that we've not already blown ourselves up just through sheer
accident.
Mark Olly 28:32
Yeah.
Jim Harold 28:32
A miscalculation. And now we're seeing the players are becoming,
say what you want about the old Soviet Union and the US. Pretty
stable, pretty stable.
Mark Olly 28:42
Yeah.
Jim Harold 28:43
Now, the leaders? The world is much more unstable and have access
to much more powerful weapons, and in many more hands. I mean, it
just seems to me that it's a matter of time till one of them goes
off. And then who knows what happens from there.
Mark Olly 28:59
Yeah, as an archeologist, I'm perhaps aware of things that others
might not be. This--over here in Scotland, we have a lot of sunken
shipwrecks, and all these sunken ship wrecks are from the 19th
century. And what's happened is industrial companies, people that
produce electronics and things for use in hospitals, etc. They
bought up all these shipwrecks, and this is quite shocking, this,
because the iron content of the shipwrecks is not polluted by
radiation.
Jim Harold 29:30
Wow.
Mark Olly 29:30
Because they're pre--pre-nuclear. They're pre the nuclear age, all
iron that's produced now, post Hiroshima, Nagasaki, etc., all the
stuff that's done now is actually radioactive. All of it. So we are
literally living in a radioactive world, there's nothing we can do
about it, you know, there's reactors gone pop, there's stuff flown
into the atmosphere, there's no other bombs--
Jim Harold 29:51
Testings?
Mark Olly 29:52
Yeah, test--test, testing the bombs. Yep. All sorts. So even if you
like, even if we don't end up dropping bombs on somebody
specifically, every time one of these things goes off, it's
increasing the radiation content within the sphere of planet Earth.
So you can see why, you know, if I was a time traveler, and I was,
you know, in one of these spacecraft from, you know, 7, 8, 9,
10,000 years ago, and I was looking at the planet going, well, this
is what should happen? Well, what are the idiots doing at the end,
you know, why are they doing that, that's really going to mess
things up. Because radiation doesn't go away, you know, it's not
easy to get rid of, you can't just vacuum it up, or, you know, seal
it up and hope for the best. It gets out, you know, and it does
damage the planet. I'm a 1960s kid. I was born in the 1960s, just a
couple of years before the first Apollo landing on the moon and all
that nonsense. So I've literally grown up with that my entire life,
I've grown up with a nuclear threat as well as same as yourself.
You know, by the time you get to sort of my age, you start to
think, you know, this--this, we should have sorted this out ages
ago. You know, why is it still dragging on? You know, who is it
that you have to get all off to say, stop it. So I'm totally with
you, I think these these entities are coming to us now to say, you
know, cut it out, it's you know, you're ruining your own home,
literally, you're wrecking it. So stop it.
Jim Harold 31:17
A lot of food for thought. And, Mark, really excellent discussion.
Thank you so much for talking with us about crystal skulls and
human heads. Where can people find the book? And I know you've done
many other books and you do a lot of other things. How else can
they connect to everything you do?
Mark Olly 31:36
Okay, I love to keep things really simple. If you want books, the
best place to head is Amazon. Go and have a look at Amazon, type my
name in M A R K O double L Y. you should get all the books I've
ever done, actually, you'll get one on the disappearing ninth
legion, which is the Roman one, the Green Man, you'll get Robin
Hood, you'll get the one on crystal skulls and human heads. They're
all on Amazon. So just do an Amazon search. And that will take you
to where you need to be. I've got to say as well as the hardback
version of the book we've just produced is amazing. It just looks
incredible. It's one of the nicest books I've seen in a very long
time. So you want to buy some gifts for people at Christmas and all
that, you know, buy crystal skulls in hardback, because it's a
really sexy looking book. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that
but it is. Anyway--
Jim Harold 32:22
You're allowed.
Mark Olly 32:24
Pretty much, I mean the artwork. Yeah.
Jim Harold 32:26
If you don't tooteth your own horn, it does not get tooted-edeth?
If I could say that (laughs).
Mark Olly 32:34
If anybody wants to contact me, it's good old fashioned Facebook.
If you come and find me on Facebook, I've got a photo of me tinted
blue holding a crystal ball. So it's pretty obviously me, there's
only a couple of other guys with a similar name to me. So you'll
find me, send a friend request and then we could chat on Messenger.
If it's for professional reasons, I can give you my email and go
from there. So it's really very simple. It's Amazon for books and
products. It's Facebook if you want to get in contact with me.
Jim Harold 33:01
Well, it's been a great time. Mark Olly, thank you for exploring
these mysteries with us.
Mark Olly 33:07
A pleasure, truly a pleasure.
Jim Harold 33:08
And thank you for joining us today on Ancient Mysteries on the Air.
We appreciate it. And please keep exploring those mysteries. We'll
talk to you next time. Have a great week everybody. Bye bye.
